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AKMG Sucks, Here’s Why

Submitted by Nick on September 9, 2009 – 5:31 pm18 Comments

UPDATE 12/18/1009: @akmgalerts on Twitter.com sent this out: @AKMGAlerts: @NickMattern Your Oriel Wine basket is in the mail! Happy Holidays!   They removed the post after a few hours and never bothered to send so much as an email.  These guys are amateur night personified.  AKMG just isn’t worth dealing with.

I have documentation and skype recordings that verify 100% of what is claimed here. I’ve tried to be as fact-based and objective as I can possibly be.

Long story short, I had a very simple situation turn into a big stinking mess because of the misinformation provided to me by one of the AMs at AKMG, Eleah.  Now this girl, Eleah, is extremely nice, but she’s a grunt at the company and has no real voice.  That’s where the problem for me lies. She tells me one thing, I act on that information and incur expenses, then her boss tells me another thing, and asks me to abandon the previous design work and do something new. (Update: In fairness, they did offer to have their in house people edit the sites, but this was only offered after we had gone round after round with me telling them I was done with the offer.)

I initially agreed to run this Oriel wine offer. It’s a weak offer with a low payout, but it’s wide open, barely any competition, so I said I’ll give it a shot.  I spend 30+ hours doing some hardcore research so when I do launch the offer, I have a decent chance of at least making ’something’.

After all the research, I hire a designer who does a design for me. I submit it to AKMG for approval and Eleah comes back with “approved as long as the remaining copy to be completed in the website does not in any way allude to or insinuate that you are part of Oriel Wine.”  The domains I submitted were also approved.

The design used all of Oriel’s provided graphics and the color scheme was closely tied in to their site. It was not a knock off and anyone with 1/2 a brain knew from reading the flog copy that it was for sure NOT Oriel Wine.

Fast forward to the day I start traffic, 2 hours in they have issues with the design and the domain(s) I’m using.

I stop traffic, they come back with some weak excuse that “the Oriel marketing guy approved your design, but the Oriel CEO did not, it’s too similar to their own site”. I explain to her that that info might have been useful a lot earlier in the process and that now I’m already $400 into designs (3 designs for 4 sites) and I wasn’t about to spend another $300 to have them updated.  On this day, AKMG wouldn’t provide me any further feedback detailing what exactly would make the lander compliant or what the merchant really wanted.  They just said “something else, a review site”.  They knew my plans (I have emails with Eleah) long before this and plans included flogs.

Long story short, I got pissed and said since you approved the design, let it run, or reimburse me design expenses.  I asked for a paltry $510 to cover the design fees (and domains) for the designs they approved and I can’t use now. They declined to let it run and later said (I have this recorded!) that they don’t feel they are responsible for the design fees even though they gave the approval. [UPDATE: At the point where I asked for approval, I had only spend $50 on the design.  The other expenses were having it coded as a wordpress theme and modified for Thesis.  The look/feel of the design did not change whatsoever, only difference was it went from Photoshop to a fully coded WP Thesis theme. The decision to have it coded up came AFTER Eleah approved the design.  Had she said the design wasn't approved, no biggie, eat the $50 and start from scratch using Eleah's feedback.  Since she approved the design and I moved forward, I felt that they should comp me for the additional expenses. This is no different than an AM telling you it's ok to run PPV and 2 months later, the merchant says it's not ok and wants to withhold 2 months of commissions... The network has a responsibility to cover it's mistake in both my situation and the PPV example.]

Before anyone starts down the “the merchant has the right…” path, let’s be clear that I agree 100% with what AKMG is saying  when they now communicate their merchant’s intentions. The problem is they communicated something totally different a lot earlier in this process and it ended up costing me.

I’m sure guys run with AKMG fine all the time, but if you’re new and looking for a quality network, AKMG sucks…

The real victim here is Oriel Wines.  I have the domains and the designs and the research and I’m going to push the heck out of these other offers, bumping out all the top Oriel SERPs.

UPDATE: I’m surprised I forgot to write what I was most angry about. My feelings were that if the merchant was pulling this indecisive crap this early in the relationship, I was concerned with the possibility they’d pull this sort of reversal later on, once they had $5K-10K in commissions payable to me. This is why I told AKMG that I was done with the offer and I didn’t trust the merchant or their NOOB internal staff.  I wasn’t gonna waste my time arguing with Oriel about keywords they didn’t have on their list, or approved keywords they later reconsidered, etc., and that’s EXACTLY where the situation would have landed had I ran traffic with AKMG.  It’s a network’s job to deal with the biz end of the merchant>network>affiliate relationship and I cannot see how AKMG could have failed more completely.

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18 Comments »

  • Heavyt says:

    Seems like akmg is trading skateboards for favors and then screwing affiliates. It sucks when a company, big or small, won’t stand behind their name. I would trade a skate deck for a company that stands behind their affiliates then bows to a lowly wine company whose internet presence can be wiped out and tarnished even before it gets started.

  • quietaffiliate says:

    I think the pic says it all….

  • Eli says:

    Most networks have their own on staff designers. When that kind of shit happens to me i email them the design and tell them to fix it to be compliant. You’re right they shouldn’t have to compensate you for what you spent on it because even if she said it wasn’t compliant you still would have spent the money to get it drafted to that point. but they should be responsible for their own compliances. So most of the time they’ll give the design to their designers and make them fuck with it so you don’t have to.

    fer sure!

  • BigFanOfNick says:

    I use the akmg boards as tampons. problem is they always plug up the toilet.

  • gxdia says:

    I heard the G in AKMG stands for Gay.

  • ppcbz says:

    The drama in this industry today is too much for me to handle.

    RIP 9.9.09

  • Jamsin says:

    Its weird that you say all these bad things about AKMG yet you are still running the offer through your FLOG. – And its also weird how the site ranks #3 for “Oriel Wine Scam”. Isn’t calling something a scam when its not defamation? If I mouse over the highlighted word in your blog it says “Oriel Wine Scam” which would explain the ranking.

    I’m just sayin! I’ve worked with them a long time and have never had any problems. Sounds like a miscommunication. Also I’m surprised that you posted it on your tweet for everyone to retweet. Pretty immature, it sounds from your posting that they were trying to work it out with you.

  • Nick says:

    @Jasmin,

    I’m certainly not running the offer, just not taking the site down. It ranks for “oriel wine scam” for a totally unrelated reason, if you knew anything about SEO, you’d see that.

    They do have their side of the story, but it’s not contradictory to mine. If they did come out with a response, they’d be hard pressed to discredit anything I’ve said for 2 reasons: 1, they have the same emails I do, and 2) anything they claim to have been said on our Skype conversations is on .MP3.

    I’m sure dozens of people run successfully with them, I’m just not going to take the chance of any more petty “misunderstandings” as they call it and keep my campaigns with other networks.

  • JJ says:

    @Jasmin, looks like the affid on your wineclub site isn’t working… possible similar situation?

  • Ad Hustler says:

    Interesting situation. I can see how this would be completely frustrating. Ive never ran with AKMG and this doesn’t make me want to.

  • I never wanted to be involved with AKMG, since yo had that
    situation from them.

  • Nick says:

    Comments with fake emails and fake URLs aren’t approved. If you’re too cowardly to post as yourself, at least use the anonymizer tool at http://www.makemoniesonline.com

  • Bryan says:

    Sounds like a big communication problem on their end but either way, AKMG is at fault, especially since you dropped all that money. I would be pissed at them too.

  • Jake C. says:

    I’m a pretty big heavy-weight in SEO and PPC and this makes me want to stay the fuck away from AKMG.

    Way to respond AKMG, you fucking pricks.

  • Chris says:

    I don’t have any personal issues with AKMG, but in instances like this the network needs to be accountable for costly “miscommunications” and take care of their affiliates. AMs that don’t fully understand the cost of building a successful campaign are dangerous..

  • Dennis Yu says:

    Nick, that does suck– I’m surprised they haven’t done something to make it right. We’ve been running a little traffic with AKMG and so far they’ve been good to us. That doesn’t wipe away your experience, however.

  • Human says:

    Hmm. So much for applying to AKMG on my part, then. Thanks for the heads-up with your Oriel situation, Nick.

  • Sohan says:

    Deffo won’t be checking them out, and a wine gift basket doesn’t quiet say sorry lmfao.

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